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That was the consensus when community members and several participants from last year’s ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Town Hall on criminal justice reform gathered in ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ last week to discuss recommendations from November’s statewide town hall.

In 2018, ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Town Hall, a nonprofit organization that educates, connects and empowers people to resolve societal issues through consensus, held 17 town halls addressing criminal justice in ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ for more than 2,000 participants across the state. For the first time in the groups’ 56-year history, two of the town halls were held inside ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ prisons, which board chairman Hank Peck said allowed the group to get information from a population they otherwise wouldn’t have hear from.

At the completion of last years’ community events, more than 100 people involved in the process gathered in Phoenix and produced recommendations for meaningful criminal justice reform that was sent to state lawmakers and community leaders.

Ahead of the curve

“Many of the statewide recommendations either started here, have happened here, or are in the process of happening here,� Chief Deputy Pima County Attorney Amelia Cramer, a longtime participant in the town hall process, said during last week’s gathering.

Cramer discussed Pima County’s diversion opportunities for juvenile offenders and reducing the juvenile inmate population from about 400 a decade ago to about 40 today.

She also touted the ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Police Department’s Mental Health Support Team and its program for drug offenders, saying they are keeping people out of jail for disorderly conduct charges and other misdemeanors, instead connecting them with treatment.

Most of the successful diversion programs are funded with grants, and Cramer urged people at the town hall to contact state lawmakers to push for permanent funding.

Recommendations become bills

Assistant Pima County Public Defender Nate Wade, whose duties with the Public Defender’s Office include legislative advocacy, said he brought prosecutors, probation employees, defense attorneys and representatives from the ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Department of Corrections into the bill-writing process.

“When I was in law school, I worked at the state Legislature in an internship and realized the only people there were prosecutors. There was only one voice,� Wade said. “When you only have one voice, sometimes good intentions kind of make bad policy without balance.�

Several recommendations from the town hall found their way into bills proposed at the start of the legislative session, although many are now dead after failing to receive committee hearings.

Wade said there are only three or four members of the Legislature who don’t believe in some sort of criminal justice reform and that bipartisan support of the proposed bills was strong this year.

“We may make baby steps this session or next session,� Wade said. “If we can keep having these tough discussions and find ways to work together, eventually we’ll get there.�

Reducing recidivism

Juli Roberts, warden of the ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ State Prison Complex in ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥, said she’s been with the ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Department of Corrections for more than 20 years and has seen the pendulum swing back and forth in many different ways when it comes to prisons’ purpose.

“It’s swinging more towards programming now rather than locking them up and throwing away the key,� Roberts told the group. “I’ve seen both, and locking them up and throwing away the key doesn’t work.�

The ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ Department of Corrections’ goals include creating positive change in inmates’ behavior, along with reducing recidivism over the next 10 years by 25 percent.

“(These people are) in prison because they didn’t make good decisions or maybe didn’t have the skills to do so,� Roberts said. “If we don’t change that behavior, they get out and they come right back in.�

The Department of Corrections has an inmate population of about 41,000. Roughly 12,000 of those inmates need ongoing mental-health services and about 77 percent of inmates have a substance-abuse history , Roberts said.

On top of that, many inmates who come into the prisons only read at a fourth- or fifth-grade level.

About 95 percent of people sentenced to ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ prisons will at some point be released from prison, Roberts told the crowd.

“We want when they return to community, that they have a good job, pay taxes and interact with community in a positive manner,� Roberts said.

“We can’t just house them when they’re incarcerated and dump them off in the streets, it doesn’t work that way.�

The ÃÛèÖÖ±²¥ prison offers mental-health programming, substance-abuse counseling and a variety of courses, including cognitive restructuring, changing offender behavior, money management, parenting skills and preparing for re-entry. The prison also has an incentive program that rewards positive behavior.

The department has the third-largest budget in the state, taking in over $1.1 billion a year since 2012. In a March 12 tweet, Gov. Doug Ducey said he’s supporting an increase to the department’s budget to cover raises for correction employees of 5 to 15 percent.

Roberts said that over the last eight years, she’s noticed the shift in focus on programming rather than simple incarceration. The biggest push has come within the last two years, but it’s too much work for any one agency or group to do alone, she said.

In addition to addressing needs like transportation and employment upon release from prison, it takes a whole community to help push through the stigma associated with being a felon, Roberts said.

“We can only do so much before they hit the gate,� Roberts said. “Once they hit the gate, I think it’s all of us together that need to give them a hand up or try to remove the barriers they face.�